the unions and paper pushers. >> let's destroy the system. >> bring on the creative destruction. who would disagree? >> shame on you. >> teachers unions disagree and they are mad at me and mad at reformers who care about test scores. >> city schools terrible because of unions like you. >> our test scores are not what we choose to focus on. >> how do you know if they are learning anything? >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eyes. >> give me a break. the block also opposes charter schools. >> over my dead body they will come there. >> unions are mat because some charters can fire bad teachers. >> i call it bringing up a person's future. >> a teacher wants to teach. >> this actor says teachers need tenure. >> why else would you take a [ bleep ] salary. >> why have tenure?

most positions don't have tenure. >> at least now there is some good news. at some schools where teachers can be fired kids learn. >> give us the worst school anywhere in per and we will jut perform the other schools in five years. >> how good are the test scores at hit charter schools? >> there isn't even a word for it school spending has tripled over the past 40 years. we now spend much more than other countries but what do we get? fancier schools, more assistant principals but student learning, no improvement. look at it. there is the line. for 40 years. scores have been flat. much more money, no improvement. this is awful. but there is some good news.

around america, some very cool things are starting to happen. >> but school is boring. >> no, it's not! >> yes, it is. i know. i went to school. grade school was boring. so was high school. so was princeton. except for the party parts. but fourth great? you have to learn reading and writing. that is work. >> reading is work. but you it's rockin' awesome. >> rockin' awesome? and these kids say school is fun. >> yes. >> yes. >> how is it fun to learn? >> they just teach us in a fun way. >> so you guys look forward to to going to school in the morning? >> yes. >> these kidds attend unof the newhart schools. free charter schools but the charter lets the school escape the bureaucracy of cools. these kids learn.

>> devin is 100% on top of her game right now. >> going to our school is a ticket to educational success. >> this woman runs several charter schools. all get outstanding test scores. >> you do this all with the same money the public schools get? >> we do have is with 4,000 and $6,000 less per child. >> how for less money do they get the kids so interested? >> you are interested in math. >> yes! >> reading. >> writing. >> learning is work. >> it don't matter. [ laughter ] >> the school day here is longer. kids often stay until 5:00 p.m. charter teachers can be asked to work more than the union would have is allowed. they told us they don't mind. >> but you are going to burn out york why aren't you ticked off? >> that is not an option for us ze with these kids. have our eye >> they use all sorts of new teaching techniques. sometimes teachers wear ear

pieces during class and then they are coached by their losses. what are they telling you? >> they are telling me things that i don't see it if i don't think of a great question in the moment my principal is able to kind of feed that to me through the ear piece. >> we kind of view teachers as athletes in the olympics and they need constant support and coaching to be at the top of their game. >> kids that the school constantly wave their hands around. it confused me but then the students explained it is what they call active listen. instead of interrupting class to burt out say, can i go to the bathroom or i agree with that the students make hand gestures. >> what is the symbol for agree. >> like this. >> oh. >> high test scores made the charters so popular that parents line up hoping to get their kids admitted. >> this line goes on and on. forever. goes around the block. >> so many applicants, but not that many spaces.

>> so what do you do when you have thousands of people and just a few hundred slots? they hold a lottery. >> the winners are happy. sadly, there are many are losers. on the other end of america, in oakland, california, another charter chain gets similar top results using different methods. >> here is what i say. give me the worst school in oakland, black, mexican, polka dot, give us the worst school anywhere in america and we will take it and we will outperform the other schools in five years. >> ben chavis created the model of the american indian public school right in the middle of a rough neighborhood. [ bleep ] >> these are hard workers here. >> the kids at american indian schools now have some of the highest test scores in california. >> and you can do that on the same amount the state gives every school? >> we get less. we get less than every other

school. >> the kids in american indian public charter schools are scoring so far above the average for the state for public school children that there isn't even a word for it. >> they use different techniques from the charters in harlem. here at american indian they pay some kids to tutor other kids. >> we hire our students and we pay them. they are excited they are going to make some money. >> chavis is politically incorrect. >> what are you going to study? >> science. >> a mexican in science? yeah? good for you, honey. you will be a rare bird. >> he has been criticized for imposing strict rules. >> you got in trouble, didn't you, boy? >> they are stricter because they really want to us succeed. >> a teacher made this student do pushups in the hallway because he didn't follow directions. >> you have to try hard when you are here. >> i hate saturday school. >> my other school we didn't have is as much homework. we had one page of homework and

here we had six subjects of homework and the teachers were a lot nicer and here they are a lot meaner. >> meaner and yet no student has expelled since is the school began in 2000? >> no way. i love fools. i love the kids that get in trouble because you can take a kid who is acting like a fool or gets in trouble and use them as an example. it. >> is cruel critics say. we have a 6th grade student acts up in class he will be sent to sit on the floor in it an 8th grade class. >> that is true and embarrassment keeps people in line whether we want toed a knit or not. >> even gym glass is strict. >> at my old school we played games every p.e. but here it is either running for ten minutes or running around the block. >> you fire people at your schools. >> they should be fired. >> you fired teacher after one day. >> she was incom income compet. >> you could tell in one day? >> yes, she was incompetent. >> if i'm not going a good job

it is over and it could happen at the drop of of a dime. >> that is not true with most government run schools especially union ones. union teachers are happy that they can't be he suddenly fired but the charter teachers can be. >> you can get canned in a moment. doesn't have bother you? >> if i'm not doing my job per se and i was fired for that, so be it. >> if i was a doctor and i wasn't good i mean i wouldn't have a job. no one would come to me, right? >> i would hope not. >> you cannot maintain quality unless you can fire people says this charter founder. >> it is as many as we must and as little as we can have. >> have you fired more than ten? >> this three schools in eight years, yes. >> but while bad teachers might get fired good teachers are given freedom. >> they can choose the textbooks and teaching methods as long as they every quarter and every year make sure that the students are learning what they need to learn at the end of the day. >> in harlem, 43% of 8th

graders get passing grades in state math tests. 100% of her kids passed. if such charters work why aren't there more of them? >> because unions and supporters of traditional schools hate charter. this protest occurred outside one of eva moscowitz's charters. >> i hope it is not personal but it may be. >> this union boss doesn't want charters in what he calls his school. >> over my dead body they are going to come there. >> does he get to stop them? when we return i will confront the unions about that and other strange things union losses said like we shouldn't judge teachers but by how well students do on tests. >> how do you know if they are learning anything? >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eyes? >> what? more stupid in america when we return.

competition makes everybody better but there are some people who don't like me saying that. >> shame on you! shame on you! >> the teachers' union, five million members strong. >> shame on you. >> this group was mad at me. >> we are here to demand an apology from 20/220 john stossel. >> i did another show that said it was euphoria possible to fire bad teachers. the union leader said because of my program. >> educators all oh over the country feel that they have been kicked in the teeth. >> they were surprised when i came outside to hear them. the union says i should be educated.

>> we have elementary schools. >> the crowd liked the idea of me teaching for a week. >> see john teach! see john teach! >> i think i surprised them again when i said okay i'll teach but then they changed their minds. union president randy winegarten won't talk to me any more. with other union losses do. joe del grasso and nathan saunders of washington, d.c. >> city schools are terrible because of unions like yours. >> i would disagree. we have progress as a result of unions. >> save our schools! >> three days before saunders led this protest march to complain about plans to pay teachers based on how well the students do on tests. the protesters even composed an antitest song ♪ i think i know why the union doesn't like testing. your results are awful. they are among the lowest in

the nation. >> you make an argument that it is the lowest in the nation based upon the test scores. now, i would say that ours can get better but i would say that ours are -- >> your predecessors the unions have been saying that for years. >> the unions have a advocated for high quality ed glace but not achieving it. >> our test scores are not what we choose to focus on. we choose to focus on teaching kids. >> how do you know if they are learning anything if you don't test them and compare. >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eyes. >> the protesters had celebrity is support. actor matt damon. he was asked by a woman from reason tv about the rules that make it hard to fire a union teach. in acting there isn't job security, right york why isn't it like that for teachers? >> could you think job insecurity is what makes me work hard. >> you have an incentive to work harder. >> it is not an incentive.

you thick this mba style thinking, right? >> mba style. business school ideas. well, yes. charter schools vouchers even obama's race to the top are based on the idea that competition is good. if kids are free to take their school money to any school competition among schools including for profit chains will force all of the schools to get better. or go out of business. the best schools will expand. but the unions don't like that market competition. >> there is a profit motive behind all of the extra testing. >> we need to get the corporations out of the schools. >> the union says school of choice would enrich corporations. but further immoverrish poor teachers ♪ >> teachers paid enough? no. you you have some teachers making over $100,000 a year. >> and they aren't making enough. >> matt damon agrees with that.

his mom is a union teach. a teacher wants to teach. i mean why else would you take a [ bleep ] salary and really long hours. >> teachers make a [ bleep ] salary? well, maybe to matt damon but today american teachers make more per hour than accountants, nurses, architects. >> i can guarantee you this, it is not about the money. >> kevin chavis is a former d.c. politician. >> when i was chairman on the council i give the school system 300 million more dollars. they got more money than ever to educate kids and the test scores went down. they grew central office and had more deputies to the assist yan to the deputy to the assistant. they grew the bureaucracy. >> and the former district chancellor michelle reid found that the bigger bureaucracy didn't even get school supplies to the kids. >> walking in to schools and seeing that there were no books in the library. kids didn't have supplies and

pencils. and then the following week i visited the warehouse of the school district where there were boxes and boxes of books and scissors and blue and computers. >> why didn't they get to the schools? >> exactly. that was the question? >> why didn't they get to the school? >> it was just a complete and utter sense of dysfunction and the lack of accountability. >> the reason they call the school bureaucracy the blob. it is like this blobby thing that can't be budged. the teacher's union. janitor's union. politicians. cool board bureaucrats and if you try to make a change the blob says. >> we don't do that here. we have to requisition downtown. four or five people to sign off and the deputy director of curriculum has to say this is okay. it's crazy. >> both union leaders escaped that bureaucracy. >> you went to private school. >> that's correct. it kind of made me feel that i had better do pretty good in

that school or else. i will confront the union losses when we return. why can't other people have the choice they had? also, why does it cost a third of a million dollars to fire just one union teacher? what is wrong with these people?

look who sent their kids to private school? nancy pelosi. al gore. >> the people making rules already have choice. the politicians and i used to be a politician. the politicians have choice. >> yet all of the politicians who sent their kids to private school oppose school of choice

for regular people. >> thank you for taking my question, president obama. i wanted to know whether or not you think that mallia and sasha would get the same high quality rigorous education in a d.c. public school. >> fy wanted to find a great public school for mallia and sasha to be in we could probably maneuver to do it. >> but apparently he didn't want to. the president now sends sasha and mallia to sidwell fremd. the same school the vice president's grand kids attend. tuition $32,000 a year. and the union leaders. >> you went to private school? >> that's correct. i graduated a catholic high school. >> at this school board meeting when the chairman said he used up his speaking time del grasso marched up to the front to demand more saying my union contract mandates 7 more minutes than i got. >> the rigidity of the stupid

union contract is why the kids suffer. your union is the problem. >> i think you know better than that yes. >> opposes letting kids escape his rules by say allowing them to attend charter schools in existing school buildings. >> over my dead body they going to come there. i'm going to be there and physically try and stop them. there is certain things that don't mix. oil and water you can't emulsify. >> there is no room, there haven't the half empty schools. >> there is not. >> del grasso says charters favor rich kids but newark public schools spend almost $400,000 per chasroom. the charters get less. >> not that much less. according -- >> but they get less. it is hardly the rich versus the poor. >> i'm happy for them. >> then let them into your schools. >> don't want them in our schools. why should they be in our -- >> you are not happy for them then? >> does fox and cnn are they in the same building? i don't think so.

>> but fox and cnn can't been aish the competition. competition is good. it is why we have fox, cnn and msnbc. when you have is a choice of what channel you are going to watch or are what school you attend competition makes things better. del grasso understands that about his own education. >> my mother paid for me to go to it and it kind of made me feel i had better do pretty good in that school or else. >> sounds like you are arguing against the unionize the public schools. >> i'm not arguing against them. >> most of the independent schools are still catholic schools doing a great job for less than half the money you spend. >> i wouldn't say that. >> $17,000 versus $5,000. >> john, tell them to have another bingo game and get it over with. >> catholic schools fire bad teachers but government run schools really can't because teachers get teen your. why have tenure. most professions don't have tenure. >> when you got into organized

crime and got to be a made person there was a ceremony like tenure. it was a nice thing. >> and you kind of like it. you are in it unless you die or you are kill. >> if you are a good teacher this shouldn't be' problem with if. >> here is one problem not every teacher is is good. some are really lousy. >> it is impossible to fire the tenured teachers. >> but why? >> because there are a million steps. >> no there aren't. only one. >> it is not one step. it is all these steps. >> let's see. >> this is the list of steps required to fire a teacher in my town. this is why most principals don't even try. they look at the list of of appeals like this one and just give up. or they push the worst teachers to transfer to another school. that is such a common way to avoid the rules there is even a name for are it. the dance of the lemmon. it would be funny except the rules leave some kids stuck

with terrible teachers. >> this is crazy. >> this former police investigator says it takes years to fire even an abusive teach. lots of people said he hit kids. the kids said it. >> lots of people and other people said it that were present in the classroom. took me four years and $283,000, $127,000 in legal fees. plus what it cost to have a substitute fill in all while he is sitting home having popcorn. >> still being paid by the state. >> still being paid by the district. >> he couldn't even fire the teacher who faked his doctorate. and -- >> he went to sleep in class. >> and he was quite disturbed when the supervisor came in and woke him up. >> he complained. >> it never ends. it never ends. >> when we return, meet someone who successfully fired hundreds of teachers. >> fired your own daughter's principal. >> that was a chilly night at home. e in news, fox news

channel. education in america is a mess. what will fix it? who might fix it? >> somebody needs to fix it! you can do it! >> oprah thinks this woman can fix it. >> thank you, michelle. i'm rooting for you. >> michelle is michelle reid. >> michelle reid an acting chancellor. >> five years ago the mayor picked her to manage the d.c. schools. >> you had never run a school system before. >> i had never run a school before and that why people thought that adrian was nuts. a 37-year-old girl from toledo, ohio. >> and a people said what? who? >> yeah. people said he has lost his mind.

>> her friends said she had lost hers. >> i have two kids, two daughters, 9 and 12. and they -- i put them in the d.c. public schools. >> the schools were a disaster. test results among the worst in america. the chancellor quickly learned although only 8% of d.c.'s kids were on grade level there was something odd about how the teachers were ranked. >> when i looked at the per are form manti te'o evaluations of the adults in the system. >> how good is the adult doing. >> how good are the teachers doing i found that 95% of the adults were being rated as doing a great job. how can you have a system where all of the workers are thinking we are doing a great job for our kids and what we are producing for them is 8% is success? >> she visit ised schools and saw emcity classrooms. >> i walk into this one school. i go to the first classroom. five kids in the classroom. second classroom nine kids. third, three kids. 7 kids. i'm thinking what is going on.

i get to like the fifth or sixth classroom and i ask the teacher, i saided where are all of the kids? >> and she said well, it's friday. i thought really? i just couldn't believe that was the answer. so i said is that all? she said no. i thought great, okay, she is going to tell me that some are on a field trip or something like that and she said it's raining, too. >> turned out not every classroom was empty. attendant varied by teacher. >> i'm walking through and finishing my visit and walk into one classroom and there are 30 kids in the classroom. there are not enough desks for the number of kids that were there. there were kids sit ping on the radiators and i go to one of the kids and i said what do you think about the teacher. he said this is my best teacher bar none. as i was leaving the school and this was about at 10:00 in the morning that young man and two of his friends were walking out of the school in front of me.

i tapped him on the shoulder and said where do you think you are going. they said the first period teacher is great so we came to school but our second period teacher is not so good so we are are going to roll. i thought okay this is not the picture that the american public have in their minds of truants. these children are were making a conscious decision to wake up early and come to school for first period because they knew they would get something out of it and leave after that because they knew they would get nothing out it. >> and great teacher gets paid more than all of the other teachers. >> gets paid no more. would have gotten laid off first. >> reid decided she would pay good teachers more and fire bad teachers. >> that did not go over particularly well. >> reid must go! reid must go! >> a few weeks into this i was visited by my then general counsel and he comes rushing into the office and says you have got the to stop firing people. i said why.

in people are not doing the jobs that they are supposed to be doing. we need to move them out and he said well, welcome to d.c. public schools where we never fire any one. >> you you did fire a lot of these people. >> eventually we did. >> rhee found a 90 day loophole that let her close some lousy schools and fire some teachers. >> nothing short of a firestorm surrounding the future of the d.c. public school system. >> 30 school principals being terminated this week. >> it was a plan. plot even before she took the job to get rid of people who have been around who have tenure. >> you fired 204,000 teachers. fired your own daughter's principal. >> that was a chilly night at home. >> she upset families. communities. students. and teachers. a lot of people got fired. >> she said they deserved to be fired the system needs change. >> many of those thought she needed to be fired. >> people really hated you.

hate you still. >> yeah. yeah. i was the wicked witch of the west. they called me the hatchet lady and the dragon lady. the teacher terminate. a big bad witch and time magazine put you on the cover with a broom. >> i took that to mean sweeping house. >> the blob didn't want their house swept. the union says poorly performing teachers need a second chance. >> don't you have some union teachers who are just lousy. >> we need to lift up the low performers and help them do better. >> why not just fire them. sorry, maybe teaching is not for you. >> there is a cost to firing teachers. the quality of life of that person is deeply affected by that termination. >> so therefore nobody should ever be fired? >> well, what we should do is help people improve their skills. >> people would say to me he well, if a teacher is not effective you should talk about spending the time and effort to

profsionally develop that person, right. i would say okay, but whose children are we going to put in that classroom for this year? >> who are you going to practice on? >> right, who are you going to say oh, and it didn't work out sorry. you only get one chance at first grade. >> she changed the poll. >> i we would do the leadersoffs by quality instead of seniority and this really upset the apple cart and people were protesting. >> why would it upset the apple cart? it is just common sense to do it by quality. >> common sense to you and me but it was absolutely counter to what the district had always done. it is the tollway unions operate, right. i mean seniority. >> just cheats the good young teacher, don't they get mad. >> forget the young teachers. it cheats the kids. >> kids were a little less cheated under rhee. test scores went up when she was chancellor but in the end the union won.

>> get her out. >> we will fight. if we have to be here every day all day all night we will. >> the mayor who appointed her was voted out and when lost rhee quit before she was fired. >> michelle rhee becomes a casualty of d.c. politics. >> she lost in d.c. but elsewhere are in america all sorts are new school are is succeeding and exciting things are

people who try to start charter schools often say the bureaucrats make is so hard and put up all of the obstacles and that is where there haven't enough charters to have a real market. in one town most kids now attend charters. how did that happen? >> hurricane katrina on track to make a direct hit on the low lying city of new orleans. >> it happened because of a hurricane. >> all eyes on new orleans. not only a famous city but below sea level. >> the entire area will be under water. >> when katrina flooded new orleans it didn't just flood much of the city it also destroyed the school system.

some school reformers think maybe that is what needed to happen. >> it was wound of the worst school districts in the country. it was a horror. >> before katrina the schools were just failing. >> rebuild what was there or build something entirely new? >> laz built something new and made it easy for people to open charters. >> still the state here is my plan. >> ben started a charter school called psi academy. >> we have complete control over the quality of our instruction. >> when start the the school in 2008 he was the only employee. he drove his car around new orleans until 3:00 in the morning putting up signs advertising his school. >> and you see this number right here that was my cell phone. >> he had to advertise because students had to choose to go there. they didn't just get is sent here because they live nearby. >> we are putting these up everywhere. >> he went to people's houses to recruit. >> living in new orleans we everhad that. >> her son reggie goes to psi

academy. >> he came out and interviewed me and talked to reggie and he was explaining about the hours and academics and stuff. >> when the school opened only a third of the students were proficient on state tests. >> i know half of them didn't know how to read. >> now, psi academy's test results are among the best in the city even though the school itself is just a bunch of trailers. >> there is a plan in my mind to have a permanent building but if you walk to the school and first thing they tell you you is complaints about the facilities they are probably not focus on the right thing. teachers have to perform because the principal can fire at will. >> yeah, yeah. we have at will contracts with the school. >> sharon clark runs another new orleans charter and she, too, fires the weakest teachers. >> i call it freeing up a person's future. >> the charter law also allows parents to fire a school if they don't like this school they can send their kid to

another. sharon needs to work hard because she worries about losing her charter. >> every day, sir. >> good morning, class of 2013. >> good morning. >> that competition drives schools to try different things like this morning ritual at psi academy. >> who are you? >> my education is my future and future is now! >> why are you here? >> this teams a little cult like and some kids didn't take it seriously. but something worked. >> it was amajor difference. since he has been here he has become more responsible. thinking. >> even though i didn't like the school at first as i went to school i started to want to go to college more because i saw how important it was. >> now, reggie's mother is getting ready to start college so reggie tutored her for a test using skills he learned at psi. >> this is how is should have

been before katrina. >> this charter has grown from one employee into another school that is so popular it holds a lottery to decide who gets in. >> we are going to have a waiting list of about 200 students long. >> this is our best by far. >> as you saw in harlem, nervous kids and relatives sit anxiously hoping their name will be called. some go away happy. >> yeah! >> most do not. >> it just goes to show this kind of school is badly needed in the city and this kind of education is exactly what we need to be offering every single kid. >> today, most kids in new orleans attend charter schools and test scores across the city are better. >> many of the greatest cities in the world have been reborn amid crisis. the chicago fire resulted in a greater chicago being built. the san francisco earthquake resulted in a much more dynamic safer city emerging.

the fire of london resulted in a much greater capital emerging. people in new orleans are rebuilding the city for the better. >> the school of choice movement is here to stay and it will never go back. >> and next some more good news this time from the internet. the blob should be worried because look how excited these kids are about math.

do your kids have a good teacher? how do you know? maybe the teacher next door is better. maybe there is a better teacher in another state. maybe there is the world's best teacher or several.

wouldn't it be great if your kids could have that teacher? well, today, yes, you can. >> yeah, i got it! >> yeah! >> these kids are this excited about a math website. >> it is amazing. >> negative four minus four and we are done. >> it taught me a lot of things. five years ago, hedge fund analyst sal khan created videos like these to tutor his cousin. >> that worked out well so i started tutoring her brothers and cousins and i had to do the same lecture over and over again. i had a friend who said why don't you put the lectures on you tube and i decided to give it a shot. >> welcome to the presentation on basic addition. >> soon, thousands watched his lectures. >> i started getting letters from people and comments on you tube and they are not like hey, i think this kind of might of helped on my math exam. they are leak i failed calculus the first time and started watching the videos and now i'm

acing the class. >> the you tube numbers kept rising and he got letters from the middle east, africa. >> what sal khan has done is amazing. >> now, he is funded by bill gates and offers web lectures on everything from history to economics to computer science. his videos are viewed million is of times. >> not only is it reaching millions of students right now but even if god forbid i got hit by a bus when i walked outside it would still be able to reach millions and maybe billions of stew kents. >> you happen to be good at teaching. >> i will take that as a compliment. >> it is a compliment. he is a great teach. i hope that helps. see you in the next video. >> it is helping us learn a lot who are. >> it ision sighting that he gets kids so excited about math. >> yeah. >> in most parts of life things have gotten much better. cars, computers, cell phones. education no so much. >> remind 80 or 90 or 100 years and you would have the local

band if you had a party that was the only gig in town. >> each village might have a story teller or sing. exactly. once you have mass media coming out people say wait, why don't we take the best musician and actor and story teller in whatever way and record it and you the put it out on radio and on records or whatever. i think in near arery that could have happened with education before. >> but it hasn't. even for basic math, multiplication tables i thought they would be using video games. why not. >> a huge bureaucracy which wants to say know to change the system. >> the blob people call it. >> it is. what is fun from our point of view is we are able to reach students outside of the blob. >> this california school district started using the videos in fifth grade classrooms. the teachers are skeptical but now are impressed with what it does for the kids. >> they are happy to walk in the door and they are excited about math.

it is like oh, my gosh, we have math this morning, it's great. >> we assume that most people on their own don't want to do -- don't want to learn or get engaged in mathematics. >> yeah. >> i think they are frustrated because most are in classrooms that are not catering to them. >> at first teachers worried that the online instruction could replace them. but. >> i think it is so wrong as my teachers would tell you they have taught more math than they have ever taught before. >> now, teachers can tutor kids. one on one. >> i notice you were having some issues with fractions. >> you can go on your own pace. >> and because kids can go at their own pace. >> the students still working on easy multiplication and then i have students working on high school math. >> some kids enjoy the lessons so much they study at home. >> some are doing two or she hours a night at home when i'm asking for 15 minutes. >> when i'm at home when i have

some time i log on. it is way more fun to do math. >> finally after all these years of kids being bored in school and not learning math it is over? >> i think it might be. >> hope so. if it happens it will be thanks to the online classes report charter schools or other experiments that break out of the up a none dominated government monopoly. let a thousand flowers bloom. it is competition that has given us better medicine, transportation, technology, everything. don't our kids deserve that, too? that is our show. i'm jon stossel. thanks for